I could barely walk; my watch “step counter” had me pegged at 250 steps or less a day with a cane. My wife had some Juggernaut lying around, so I reached for it and applied it to my knees in the morning. By the end of the day, I felt more robust, and a week later, I could walk with a cane for about 1500 steps. A month later, I was walking normally. I now use my cane if I have a heavy walk day that exceeds 3500 steps. Usually, the next day I am fine again. In other words it seems to get better and better progressively. Laser treatments, for me, gave little results whereas. The Juggernaut cream, on the other hand, seemed to provide me with a more noticeable improvement.